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Et godt Summary?

20. marts 2004 af Slacz Maci (Slettet)
Heya, har postet noget af det her før, men ville lige høre om der ikke var andre der havde meninger omkring hvad et godt engelsk summary er? Jeg har lavet to ud fra det samme kapitel i en bog, og ville lige høre om i havde kommentarer til hvilket der var bedst? (Rettelser grammatisk osv er self velkomne! :)
Jeg har gjort det første meget slavisk og beskrevet handlingen stykke for stykke, mens jeg i det sidste har prøvet at skære mere ind til "benene"..
Kom endeligt med nogle tanker, rettelser og ideer :)

Gatsby has stopped throwing huge parties and explains to Nick that the reason is that Daisy dislikes them. Daisy and Gatsby see each other often, and Daisy invites Jordan, Nick and Gatsby over to the Buchanan’s house. It is at this point Tom becomes aware of the fact that Daisy and Gatsby have feelings towards each other. The group decides, after some quarrels, to go to New York. Daisy drives with Gatsby, and Nick and Jordan with Tom. The latter drives around Mr. Wilson’s garage (Mr. Wilson is ill), where Tom learns that Mr. Wilson has discovered that Myrtle is having an affair – just not with whom. Tom and Mr. Wilson have both discovered their wives being unfaithful, but react very differently.
It comes to a confrontation in The Plaza Hotel in N.Y, where Nick and Gatsby fight about Daisy. Gatsby and Daisy drives to Tom and Daisy’s house, but accidentally kill Myrtle on the way back home as she is running out in front of the car. Tom discovers that it was Gatsby and Daisy who killed her accidentally.

In chapter 7 a confrontation takes place in the Plaza Hotel in New York, where Tom, Daisy, Nick, Jordan and Gatsby (who has stopped hosting parties since Daisy didn’t like them) have driven to (Gatsby and Daisy in a car alone). On the way Tom learns that Mr. Wilson has discovered that Myrtle is having an affair – just not with whom. Mr. Wilson is practically ill, while Tom (who has been in the same situation just a couple of hours before, when he realised the love between Gatsby and Daisy) doesn’t show much sign of weakness.
Tom is less shaken by the fact that Daisy is having an affair, than the fact that she had it with someone of the lower class (he does not, on the other hand, see his affair with Myrtle in this light). We also learn that what Gatsby loves about Daisy’s voice is that it sounds like money
– maybe she represents the money and wealth he always desired. His motives may be far more selfish than the love of Daisy’s personality. It becomes clear in this chapter that Gatsby cannot take up the past like nothing happened, e.g. is Gatsby introduced to Daisy’s child and can’t believe that she is real.
In this chapter Daisy and Gatsby tries to take up the past, but it ends in a catastrophe; Myrtle is killed when she runs out in front of the car Daisy is driving. Tom, with Nick and Jordan in the car, drives by some time later and discovers that it must’ve been Gatsby and Daisy who had driven the car that killed Myrtle.

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Svar #1
20. marts 2004 af Bluekitty (Slettet)

Hey...
Ikke for at lyude mobset...men for at bedømme dit summary..skulle man vel have læst tekste..;)

Svar #2
20. marts 2004 af Slacz Maci (Slettet)

Hm, ikke nødvendigvis vil jeg mene. Et summary skal jo netop skrives for at give et billede af noget som læseren _ikke_ skal have læst :) Derfor er mit spøgsmål også hvilket læserne (det er så jer :P) synes er bedst. Det der med at min lærer bliver ved med at snakke om at man skal skære ind til benet og finde selve meningen med det der står skrevet og ikke blot beskrive handlingen. Synes bare mit forsøg er blevet lidt rodet, og da jeg nu har beskrevet handlingsforløbet i det første summary ville jeg også mene man havde noget at sammenligne med..

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Svar #3
20. marts 2004 af Belief (Slettet)

Min engelsk lærer siger ellers det modsatte. Hun siger, at meningen/budskabet ikke skal tages med i et Summary...

Jeg har dog læst de to, og jeg må give dig ret. Det seneste virker lidt rodet. Min første opfattelse af det var, at det var ret mærkeligt summary.

Min mening er, at du helt klart skal bruge det første. Derimod er det måske et summary, som din lærer ikke kan lide.

mvh.

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Svar #4
21. marts 2004 af just (Slettet)

Den er svær. Jeg vil umiddelbart sige at den første er bedst, da nr. 2 er lidt rodet. Dette er hvad jeg har på hvordan et essay skal se ud. Disse punkter skal dækkes:
1.Helhedsforståelse - Indledning/Problemstilling, Hovedbudskaber.
2.Sammenhæng.
3.Læseren kender IKKE teksten , Hvem, Hvad, Hvor, Hvornår??
4. Skrives i præsens 3 person. 200-300 ord.

Hovedbudskabet i et summary skal med, dvs.:Hovedbudskaberne skal opsummeres nuanceret og neutralt uden personlige kommentarer undervejs. H-spørgsmålene skal dækkes. Man skal ikke fortolke og derfor ikke besvare spørgsmålene Hvordan og Hvorfor!

Ved ikke om du får noget ud af dette, men hvis du selv føler at disse punkter er blevet lavet, så bør den være okay.

Svar #5
21. marts 2004 af Slacz Maci (Slettet)

Tak for det allesammen :) Har prøvet at bikse de to lidt sammen (med mest fra det første). Vil i også lige smide lidt kritik/rettelser af det?
#4 - tak for opsumeringen :) Det lader dog bare til at lærerne er ret uenige (som om alt andet :P)

Gatsby has stopped throwing huge parties and explains to Nick that the reason is that Daisy dislikes them. Daisy and Gatsby see each other often, and Daisy invites Jordan, Nick and Gatsby over to the Buchanan’s house. It is at this point Tom becomes aware of the fact that Daisy and Gatsby have feelings towards each other. The group decides, after some quarrels, to go to New York. Daisy drives with Gatsby, and Nick and Jordan with Tom. The latter drives around Mr. Wilson’s garage (Mr. Wilson is ill), where Tom learns that Mr. Wilson has discovered that Myrtle is having an affair – just not with whom. Tom and Mr. Wilson have both discovered their wives being unfaithful, but react very differently.
It comes to a confrontation in The Plaza Hotel in N.Y, where Nick and Gatsby fight about Daisy. Tom is less shaken by the fact that Daisy is having an affair, than the fact that she had it with someone of the lower class (he does not, on the other hand, see his affair with Myrtle in this light). We also learn that what Gatsby loves about Daisy’s voice is that it sounds like money. Tom wins their quarrel, and it becomes clear in this chapter that Gatsby cannot take up the past like nothing happened, e.g. is Gatsby introduced to Daisy’s child and can’t believe that she is real.
In this chapter Daisy and Gatsby tries to take up the past, but it ends in a catastrophe when
Gatsby and Daisy drives to Tom and Daisy’s house, but accidentally kill Myrtle on the way back home as she is running out in front of the car. Tom discovers that it was Gatsby and Daisy who killed her accidentally.
Gatsby is still seizing the past at the end of the chapter where he’s standing outside the Buchanan’s house, even when Tom and Daisy has made peace in the house after the accident.

Svar #6
21. marts 2004 af Slacz Maci (Slettet)

Ingen? :) Ved godt jeg kører lidt på det, men vil virkeligt gerne vide hvad et godt essay er, da min lærer åbenlyst går meget op i det.

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Svar #7
21. marts 2004 af just (Slettet)

Jeg er først lige kommet hjem fra arbejde, så har først haft mulighed for at se på det nu. Jeg synes det er meget godt formuleret, men synes nu alligevel at du skal forklare lidt kort om hvem personerne er. Altså når du starter med Gatsby og derud af, så tænker jeg hvem er det? Måske kunne du starte det noget lign. på denne måde: Gatsby who is a teenage boy and lives at home, has stopped throwing huge parties....?? Jeg kender intet til historien, så dette er bare et eksempel....men på denne måde for man mere en fornemmelse af hvordan personen er uden at der ligesom bliver skrevet for meget. Ved ikke om du forstår?!

Svar #8
21. marts 2004 af Slacz Maci (Slettet)

Well, det er jo kapitel 7 af en bog :) Såeh, vi skal vel skrive som om at personen ikke har læst kapitel 7 men alligevel godt ved hvad det handler om? Hm, må lige finde ud af det, tak for lige at gøre mig opmærksom på det :)

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