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Svar #21
07. maj 2012 af DongBang (Slettet)
Jeg synes, at du skal blive ved med at hjælpe folk så godt du kan :) Jeg ved ikke om din rettelser var forkerte eller ej, men tror da godt at man kan sige det du har skrevet, og jeg ved med 100 % sikkerhed, at de var bedre end det jeg havde skrevet, så bliv ved med at hjælpe andre, for jeg ved af egen erfaring, at man bliver glad, når man får hjælp til noget man er usikker på.
....Jeg ved at Stygotiuses ord nogle gange kan være hårde, men han er meget hjælpsom, og han gør et godt stykke arbejde. Han har fx hjulpet mig mange gange til bl.a. engelsk og tysk, som han ser ud til at have rigtig godt styr på. :-D
Svar #22
08. maj 2012 af Stygotius (Slettet)
Hello Mr X from north of the Border,
There seems to be a huge misunderstanding here. I have not for a moment thought that this Cait was wicked or wanting to hurt anybody, -as she puts it in #20. Nor have I wanted to hurt her or insult her. I have however drawn attention to the fact that it's very unfortunate when somebody provides young sixth formers, wanting to learn good English, with wrong informaion about English phrasing and spelling.
I admit I couldn't help smiling when Cait wrote, ".....this is entirely in English as it is my first language" since it was obvious to anyone that this entry was written in garbled English and that the spelling was, to say the least, terribly below standard.
The fact that she can recommend a phrase like "Some people are lucky enough, that they.........." goes to show how little grasp she has of English. Furthermore, the absurd comma that she insists on having here spreads even more confusion. She "would prefer it there for dramatic effect". ......Bloody nonsense.
Cait is bold enough to say that this phrase is "not technically incorrect" and she continues with this mysterious string of words, "It is how you would incorporate it to include the latter part of the sentance(sic!) as it is.". This is just rubbish.
Equally garbled is her paragraph "That was my interpretation of how you could of changed the start of the sentance to fit with the rest of it. I wouldn't have used this myself as if you read further on I show how I would of written the sentance." This just has nothing whatsoever to do with English, but is monkey talk.
The spelling "sentance", as an example,must be said to be quite an innovation in English.
Wanting to help out is very, very commendable indeed, and I'm not after anybody's scalp, but anyone wanting to teach others must be dead certain that what he or she recommends is correct down to the minutest detail, and the person should also be aware of his or her own limitations.
Svar #23
08. maj 2012 af Cait (Slettet)
That is your opinion and quite frankly I don't really care. I don't claim to be a professor of the language, I'm an engineer. I have literally said three things in this thread, all of which quite rushed and with little real effort. I couldn't care less about your opinion of me, but my girlfriend does care how people think of her becuase of problems she had when she was younger. She had some grade 10 English exams coming up and used this website as part of her preperation as it also incorporated her kind and helpful nature. As I recall this all started because Cait spotted this thread, thought she could help, and asked me for my opinion of it. As I was just heading out of the house I quickly read it, spotted the error at the start of one of the sentances and quickly just said how I would say it. Not exactly my best work, but its hardly a dissertation on the English language so I just said what people would actually say. If I thought like you do that it had to be absolutely perfect English with zero personality in a technical writing tense then that is what I would have written. Her sentance is the completely changhed version of the original at the end of Cait's first post. There is nothing wrong with that at all, and the only thing wrong with my introduction to the specific sentance is only incorrect in the most perfect sense of the language.
You want to know what my real problem is? My problem is the tone you took up with my girlfriend. You clearly think you are better than everyone and probably rub one off at night thinking about it. Anything mean that Cait said to you in Danish is stuff that I would of said about you from the way you spoke to her. Is it so hard to say that you disagree with something, actually try and encourage people, and show what you would recommend in a constructive manner rather than calling other peoples work bullshit when it is only slightly off in the perfect form of the language. Since you are clearly good at language, here is a couple of words that I am sure you are aware of, but I feel sum you up quite nicely...
PEDANTIC
1. ostentatious in one's learning.
2.overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, especially in teaching.
NARCISSISSTIC
1. having an undue fascination with oneself; vain.
2. Psychoanalysis . tending to derive erotic gratification from admiration of one's own physical or mental attributes.
It is all in the way you write and speak to people. I am the one that told her to write certain things to you as it is exactly the image that I get of you and I am sure I am not the only one. I am pretty certain you could well be a teacher, as you certainly have the brains for it. I'm not calling you stupid by any means. There is more to teaching than just brains though. You must surely know this. If you are a teacher you must be the one that all the kids hate if you teach anything like you act on this forum. Or maybe this is just a classic case of someone acting differently online than they would in real life as it makes you feel good to try and be the "big man" from the safety of your keyboard. You probably hate your job and yourself and it makes you feel better to vent some of this frustrations at random people online. Makes you feel better that you are smarter than some random Danish schoolkids who are having problems. Or maybe it is much more simple than all this. Maybe you are just a sad and lonely old man who has nothing better to do with his time than correct people, not to help them, but to try and show off how much more knowledge you have of the subject.
That is all just speculation though my dear friend. I don't have a clue really what your problem is. Maybe you just have an attitude problem. Whatever it really is, I just think that it is wrong of you to abuse other people because you have a problem. I don't care if you are like a scribe in 7 different languages, it still doesn't give you the right. You can call me a moron all you please, doesn't even scratch the surface. Language may not be my strongest subject, but I have very good grades in English from school and know more than enough to help Danish people with school grade English. The main thing is, I'm far from a dim guy, and I know it, so you can call me all the names you please and I'll laugh in your face as I don't need to be loved and regarded by all. I have a great life, I'm young, I'm social, I have a wonderful girlfriend, and I am truly happy. Can you say the same? From your attitude I severly doubt it.
One last thing, this forum has way too far off topic. If you feel the need to continue crying at me (as well as everything on this website from the look of things) do it elsewhere. I am actually quite amused by your antics and comments. Email me: [email protected]. That is honestly my email but if you doubt me then do as you please really.
Hugs and kisses,
Graeme
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Svar #24
08. maj 2012 af Stygotius (Slettet)
You are absolutely right: ...........language is not your strongest subject, -but perhaps pouring spite and venom on other people and writing vitriolic letters are.
Svar #25
08. maj 2012 af Cait (Slettet)
Perhaps it is :(
I'll always defend Cait though. Especially since it was me who was the source of the problem really. I should of only used the perfect tense for suggestions, and I can see how you would want to correct informal writing if you believe it to be out of place. Just try and be more considerate of how you convey criticism to strangers as some will take offense. I only hope that you realise now that you upset her, not because you disagree, but because she takes unnecessary insults as personal.
P.S. the 1st post all in English was not Cait, but myself, and it was in that manner as you had hurt her feelings.
Svar #26
08. maj 2012 af Stygotius (Slettet)
I'm just amazed that a native speaker of English can write such stuff, ..........hardly something to be taught to learners.
"I should of only used........" I take it you mean "I should only have used."
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